I think Andy is a great coach. He takes care of planning for both offense & defense. It seems like no matter how much thought goes into who plays and when, there are always weaknesses that are exposed and exploited. I really hope for his and our sake that this year is the year that everyhing goes as planned. Go Birds!

As noted, I agree with you sentiments on Andy. I think they are pretty loaded this year. I think they are trying to cover up safety weaknesses by depending on pressure from the D line. That'll work most of the time, but not always. That's the only thing that worries me besides Bell/Dunlap and Vick's health and ball security.

I'm still waiting for your apology regarding Kafka...proof again that he's not an NFL QB. Let's hope Foles continues to impress or Vick stays healthy...HOLN

I don't know why you'd need an "apology"? He did look bad Thursday night. As I wrote, I don't think his roster spot is safe the way the other 2 QB's played. While we're at it, please apologize for naming yourself after the ONE guy on the '91 defense who SUCKED.

FROM PORTER:
King is a RT, and by the looks of it so is Bell. He really had trouble keeping his guy from getting the edge. A few times, his man just blew by him. At best, it means keeping Celek in to block, which really hurt the offense last season when that needed to be done. Brent adds a whole new dimension to that offense, and keeps the safeties from running deep with Desean.

Celek catching the ball is a necessity and really helps the offense. Let's not overreact just yet on Bell or King.

Mike I am very proud of you. You noted in this piece the issues concerning the Eagles secondary. I want to believe we'll see Nate Allen have a breakout year, but I think the odds of that happening are 50/50. I hope Allen is finally at full strength, from his injury during his rookie season. That said I think you are right about Kurt Coleman, but I'd add that the Eagles drafted a center in the 6th round last year, Jason Kelece, and with a great coach like Howard Mudd there to guide and teach him, he turned out to be a diamond in the rough.

Per Kafka, I'll never forget watching him play in one of the most exciting bowl games I've ever seen. Northwestern was getting soundly beat on both sides of ball by Auburn in the 2010 Outback Bowl. It was 35-21 with 3mins left in the game, when Kafka, against a team who would win this game and then the National Championship next year, lead the Wildcats on a furious comeback to tie the score at 35 and send it into OT. Whether the kid will ever be a good NFL back-up or even a starter, no one knows, but man did he show some moxie against a dam good defense filled with many current NFL players. His stats in this game were crazy, 47-78 532 4 TD 5 INT. Andy must have watched this game too. He seems to like the fearless gunslinger types. Here is a link with the highlights of that game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95hxrpVD2hg&feature=player_embedded#!

First off: WHO IS JASON KELECE??
The problem with Kafka's stats in that game are obviously the 5 TD's. After seeing him Thursday night and what the other 2 backups did, I no longer think his roster spot is safe. Foles may be ahead of where we thought and Edwards was a starter in the NFL. Don't want to overreact to 1 game, but... Kafka doesn't have the arm to be a gunslinger.

Sorry Mike I put an xtra 'e' ... but if your going to go there I guess I'll come back at you with one of your last comments in the previous piece... cause this comment was so foolish, I actually felt bad for you and tried to ignore it as you quickly put up the next piece. you said ..."I don't agree with the adage that you're only as strong as your weakest link" - we'll put up this part up for context sake but this next comment of yours is what I speak of ... "For instance, if you pressure the QB relentlessly, your safety coverage is not as important." Please clarify that statement.

Well done, Mike. The success of the D this season comes down to the LBs in my opinion. If they can't stop the run again then teams are just going to wear them out and then hit them with the long ball. These guys need to prove they can stuff the run and force opposing offenses to throw on 3rd and long. I expect Kendricks and especially Ryans to be big time upgrades from last year's squad. They're going to make or break 2012 for the Birds...on D at least.

You're not going to have an All Star at every position. Therefore, a team's strengths have to compensate for its weaknesses. Analogy, on a smaller scale so you can grasp- Nate Allen would not really be a concern if the other safety was Brian Dawkins because he was so strong. Expand that over a whole team and maybe you'll be more able to understand it. Does that help?

If a team has a finite amount of resources to allocate across it's roster, ie: the salary cap, that team is precluded from allocating enough resources to each position to have the top-ranked guy at each one. Therefore, if a team, like the Eagles, decides the most important thing to do is to pressure the QB, they allocate most of their resources to the D line and less to the safeties. The unit to which more resources are dedicated should, ostensibly, be better and compensate for the unit to which fewer of the scarce resources have been dedicated. Simple economics Bo.

Yeah I know, cause I think the Eagles applied your theory to it's linebacker corp for much of Reid's tenure, and that glaring weakness had it consequences and was exposed time and time again. I am not sure what allocating resources has to do with good college scouting, drafting and coaching. Jason Kelce won't be making that much money this season, and I assume he is making less than what Jammal Jackson would have gotten. And thanks for another zinger from you for me to tee-up. Brian Dawkins isn't the other safety, it is Kurt Coleman, the guy you noted in your piece here that we need to partner with safety with a stronger skill set. It seems important to have guys in the secondary who can play in nickel and dime packages, who then make a difference on those 3rd and longs with added pressure and coverage, which hopefully lead to turnovers.

Relax fellas, this is not a classroom and Mrs. Kopeck is certainly not keeping score of grammatical miscues. The main problems with last year's defense was lack of cohesion and poor tackling. Each unit played individually resulting in a countless number of lapses and breakdowns. I believe these problems can be directly attributed to the inexperienced coaching of Juan Castillo. Blown coverages happen from time-to-time but when they become a weekly occurrence it is a direct reflection on the coaching staff. Juan Castillo is the weakest link until his defense proves otherwise.

why i need an apology???? to paraphrase...you said in your previous post ripping McNabb that Kafka was "good"...and I said he sucked and how quickly things change...after 1 preseason game, he's in jeopardy of making the team??? Uhmmm...i was right, you were wrong!! As far as Toast...i think it's an appropriate name and player for this blog...I'm a diehard like you, but every Eagle isn't the second coming...can't wait for your gameday predictions...here's my prediction....every game will be an Eagles win...keep drinking the coolaid, Eskin/Divinhole!!

Jury's out on Kafka. My question remains on the word "apology." Did it injure you when I disagreed with your opinion? What I saw was him play very well in Atlanta. However, Edwards played well against 3rd stringers and has started in the league while Foles MAY be ahead of where we thought. That's all.

First off, pardon me for whatever grammatical errors I may have had, as I write these comments from a phone with a small touch screen. Second, you can say such because your trying to shift the debate, moreover you have no logical counterpoint. You said in your last comment to me here, "If a team has a finite amount of resources to allocate across it's roster, ie: the salary cap, that team is precluded from allocating enough resources to each position to have the top-ranked guy at each one." I then used our starting 2nd year center, a 6th round pick, who's salary isn't much, to respond to your point about 'resources.' Jason Kelce isn't the 'top ranked,' guy at his position, right. He actually saved the Eagles money. What is the minimum salary number, veteran Jamaal Jackson would have been paid, if he was still our starting center?
I am speaking of developing whatever player the Eagles have via the draft, by making sure he is well coached. You are only describing it in terms of free agency. You are excusing poor secondary play, by saying we can't afford to pay someone who might be better than Coleman, Allen or Jarret, because the Eagles chose to spend money at other positions. The fact is Coleman, Allen and Jarret aren't developing, and it is because they aren't being coached correctly, and anyone can see that by watching each play last year and during the first preseason game this year. Allen and Jarrett must be good if they were taken in round two, right?

Oh yeah I forgot to note this great analogy of yours, "on a smaller scale so you can grasp- Nate Allen would not really be a concern if the other safety was Brian Dawkins, because he was so strong." So your really saying Nate Allen is a concern, cause Brian Dawkins isn't the other safety. The problem is the other safety isn't even half as good as BDawk. Is this point I just made about your previous statement, which I put in quotes, clear enough. I didn't use some of your favorite words, such as; ostensibly, myriad, precluded and allocating, but I may use them in the future if you don't mind. I just hope those big words will help hide any future grammar missteps which I might make. Last question was that a linebacker or a safety who should have picked up Joe Jurevicius on that quick slant route, which turned out to be a 70 yard gain, and the key play in the '02 NFC Championship game? The Bucs weren't the only team who exploited this weakness in the Eagles defense.

Safety, Blaine Bishop, and 9 years ago, by the way. The D gave up 20 points, the Eagles scored 10- that was the problem in that game.
As I stated originally, yes, the safeties, both Allen and Coleman are a concern. Feel free to use whatever words you like, as long as your comments are not unintelligible so I can point out why you're wrong.

Porter, settle down buddy. 1 quarter, 2 days after a tragedy does not tell us much. The legitimacy of the tragedy excuse ended on Friday in my opinion.

Well said. I already bough Sixers finals tix with the acquisition of Bynum. Let's see a half or so of Eagles preseason before we flip.

Yep, Joe is still running, but doing so in my nightmares. I assume we all wanted to send the Vet out in style, by beating the Bucs that day and advancing to the Super Bowl. It was LB Barry Gardner in the middle of the field, who QB Brad Johnson caught in single coverage, without a Safety in sight.

Nope, it was Barry who looked like a deer in the headlights, with no Eagles defender anywhere close to where Joe Jurevicius made that short yardage catch, which he turned into a 60+ yard run to the goal line. Maybe if DeMeco Ryans was there, instead of Gardner, we would have had a better ending to the story. Though I am thrilled he is here now.

Thanks, but I don't think so. Levon was bad, but he was just one of many linebackers, which you and I could name here who played under Reid and sucked. Think of all the crappy linebackers the Eagles have drafted in the last decade. Was it poor coaching, or did we have scouts who had bad judgement when it came to grading the position. Gardner was one of the better picks at the position, when you think about it. How many linebackers have we pulled off the scrap heap, during the Reid years, who have sucked. Kirkland, the longtime Steeler, was far past useful, and retired after that NFC championship loss to the Bucs. I feel strongly that far too often good coaching is all but ignored when giving credit to whatever player and his successes in the NFL. Andy is loyal to a fault, which is admirable in a sense, but we're all worried about Juan's ability to succeed in his new position. Howard Mudd and Jim Washburn are dam good coaches, who've both taken late and undrafted players and developed them into solid pros, with a handful becoming pro bowlers. Jeff Saturday was an undrafted player under Mudd in Indianapolis. This is what very good coaches do, develop players, who turn out better than what was initially projected for them. Castillo and Zordich might be better coaches one day, but I fear our two second round draft picks, which we received for McNabb and Kolb, are likely to be casualties, because their position coach was inexperienced or just not that good a coach.

Great article,
I am so fired up!

Porter, good a theory as any. However, Trot (from Rhodes) was very good, Emmons was underrated and really goodm Barber was good first time around. McCoy, Dunbar, Gardner, Quentin Caver and a MYRIAD (that's for you Bo), of others have hurt them. Gocong, Gaither and it looks like Jamar Chaney were all average and not good enough.

Ancient history, but Jurev catch led to a tying TD, nothing more. The D gave up 20 points, good enough to win. They held Alstott to 25 yds. on 17 CARRIES! Pittman to 17 yds on 8 carries and the Bucs to 49 yds rushing for the game. If the Eagles offense does it's job, they win that game. I think Emmons was out hurt by then and both Gardner and Levon were in there, but again, LB's don't cover WR's so I'm sticking with blaming Blaine Bishop on that 71 yard catch and run.

Yes Porter, exactly, a self-fulfilling prophesy, and thus the weakest link in the Eagles defense under Reid, which I feel he didn't even try to mask. If this theory, which Mike proposed about the Eagles secondary is the same one we are talking about here in regards to past line backing groups, is true, than the self-fulfilling prophesy will happen again. What frustrates me now with the Eagles secondary and their 2nd year coach, is that they often looked like they don't know what they are doing, We've all seen clear examples of this confusion from last season and in that first preseason game.

'You can't expect players to coach up sub-premium talent across your roster, although it is important.' ... No Mike, but check your sentence here, from your comment right above, something seem amiss.

Jarret and Allen were 2nd round picks, so Coach Zordich was given a more polished, NFL ready player, and he may have screwed both up. Did you hear what happened on Monday at Eagles camp during a team scrimmage, where Nate Allen ran into Nnamdi so hard that it scared the crap out of anyone who saw it. Nnamdi laid motionless for the next 15 minutes, with the entire team surrounding the spot where the collision happened. This incident sounded like some sort of 'Three Stooges' scene. Allen was clearly late to the play, but maybe someone else was out of position. I think some of the blame has to be pointed at their position coach, who had his players here, out of position.

I don't think Zordich was even an official coach until this year. He certainly wasn't in Allen's first year- Dick Jauron was. Either way, you can't blame a coach entirely for draft picks not playing well. If so, then blame the LB coach during Reid's tenure for them not being good enough. Placing the blame on the coaches for an accident at practice is just plain ridiculous. There was confusion last year, let's wait and see if there is this year THEN we can form an opinion.

And guys it was LB Barry Gardner, and only he, who got burned on that short pass, which turned into a short TD run by Mike Alstott, on the very next play. This was the biggest play in that game, Go find the 'America's Game' episode of that Bucs championship season. I distinctly remember Coach Gruden describing the play there, in reflecting on the greatest win in Bucs history. Remember the Bucs record, before that game, when they played any game where the temperature was below freezing.

The streak you're talking about was actually the Bucs record when the temperature was below 40 degrees at kickoff. I believe it was 0-20, but they broke it late in the regular season preceding that Championship Game.
Again, LB's don't cover WR's.

http://articles.mcall.com/2003-01-20/sports/3458792_1_joe-jurevicius-lone-ranger-eagles

"That was probably the turning point," said Gruden, who is in his first season as Tampa Bay's head coach and who led the Buccaneers to a 27-10 win over the Eagles on Sunday and into the Super Bowl for the first time.

Jurevicius' reception, his only one of the day, set up a 1-yard touchdown run by Mike Alstott that gave Tampa a 10-7 lead with 40 seconds left in the first quarter. It was the key moment in a seven-play, 96-yard drive that helped the Bucs wipe out an early 7-0 deficit and reverse the game's momentum.

"When you put … a 96-yard touchdown drive together against this defense in Veterans Stadium," Gruden said, "you're kind of like the Lone Ranger, like you're the only person that's done it."

Not the fleetest of wide receivers, the 6-5, 230-pound Jurevicius, a Penn State graduate, drew single-coverage from Eagles linebacker Barry Gardner on third-and-2 from the Buccaneers' 24. He ran a crossing route, caught a Brad Johnson pass in stride, got a block from tight end Ken Dilger and rumbled down the left sideline to the Eagles' 5-yard line.

Good info Gary B. Just the Eagles luck, they ended it 3 weeks before, boosting their confidence. Eagles still blew it that day.

Gary, googled this after reading your post, because that wasn't the number I remembered. From Wikepedia:
From their inception, they lost 20 consecutive games in which the temperature at kickoff was below 40 °F (4 °C). The streak ended in the final week of the 2002 regular season, when they beat the Bears at Champaign (Soldier Field was under renovation at the time). (Wikepedia.com)

First off winning against a 4-12 Bears team at really a neutral site, and in the last game of that wretched season where I question if the Bears actually showed up, meant less than nothing. I made the trip downstate when they played the Eagles late in that season, and memorial stadium was empty by then. Henry Burris, Chuck's lost cousin and third stringer, was the Bears QB by then. The Bears didn't score a point that day. Heck I don't even think many of the Buc starters even played. And Mike, Dick Jauron, the guy who was the Bears head coach that day, is the same guy who was the Browns defensive coordinator last year, which was Mike Zordich's first year as the Eagles secondary coach. Check out this clip from that America's Game episode I speak of, where you can hear Gruden describe the big play in his own words. Go to the 2:30 mark, where Barry Gardner's blunder will be explained in a quick minute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSrmZdIlJIk

Gary B. Chunky- that's awesome. I didn't realize, he had 2 more possessions to work with after that. The game ended as Rhonde returned one of the many gifts McNabb's given him over the years.

Given the amount of misinformation on the web, 0-39 might be right, but I remember it being closer to 20 so I'm sticking with Wik on that one.

Mike to keep on beating down McNabb, who I agree has his warts, and totally absolve Andy of any blame is plain ignorant. The coach on the other side of the field that day was John Gruden, who coached with that great QB coach Reid in Green Bay. Gruden, a QB guru of sorts, really had two QB's in that Super Bowl game, with Brad Johnson as his QB, and the Delaware Blue Hen, Rich Gannon, on the other side. Donovan is better than both if you simply go by the numbers. Donovan looked bad against the Bucs defense on that day. But don't forget that including your boy Ronde, who's a borderline Hall of Famer, there are four other lock hall of famers on that defense which Donovan was going against. The first goes in next year, Warren Sapp, then there is Derrick Brooks, John Lynch and Simeon Rice. Your saying that Andy had a good game plan for attacking that vaunted Bucs defense, cause he didn't, in addition to his QB having a poor game. Would you deny that Reid's game plan and play calling, which he had Donovan carry out that day were successful. These two issues run parallel to each other, and did so for most of the time they were together as coach and QB. They were both flawed to a degree. They rarely were on the same page, so to speak, but appeared to be most off, when it matter most. Gruden, on the other had a great game plan in attacking that Eagles defense on that day.

Didn't say anything about Reid's game plan. Gruden's great game plan led to scoring 20 points. I didn't bring up McNabb, I replied to a comment. By the way, pretty sure Andy's game plan did not call for McNabb to throw a TD to Rhonde Barber- that's on the QB obviously.

Porter, yes I agree they should have run more, but remember, that was before Westbrook became a weapon and Duce was only ok by that point, I think.

Another thing Bo, you can talk about how good the Bucs defense was, but it was the same D, for the most part, the Eagles beat the previous 2 yrs in the playoffs. The Eagles also beat them earlier that SAME SEASON. The Eagles were also significant FAVORITES in the game so Vegas didn't see the Bucs D as unbeatable as you did.

Never said they were unbeatable, just pointed out the obvious, while you lauded Andy's play calling and ripped Donovan up and down for not being able to carry it out with any success. Four Tampa Bay defenders, who were on the field that day; Sapp, Rice, Brooks and Lynch, are lock hall of famers. So sure Donovan played horrible, but don't forget that he did it against a defense that has to be ranked somewhere in the top ten of all time. I guess we forgot to mention this '02 Bucs defense when we all got lost in talking up the merits of the '00 Ravens defense, but really we only spoke of the '85 Bears defense and of course our beloved '91 Eagles Defense. When you think about it now, Andy forgot that Bucs defense too, wherein he took for granted his prior successes, in beating that Bucs defense, in those previous playoff wins that you just mentioned. What a shock, when the moment couldn't be any bigger, the two guys who we all know are a bit too big, both performed in the smallest way imaginable. The Vet deserved better, and we all should have enjoyed the greatest send-off party, that our fine city has ever thrown. Yeah that spread you speak of, that had a lot to do with one of the most special sports venues, that ever graced this earth.

Didn't say a word about Andy's play-calling. Said he didn't call an INT to Rhonde Barber something McNabb specialized in doing it 2 more times next time they played the Bucs and lost then too. The Eagles beat them earlier the same season Bo so that defense wasn't that great, very good, but certainly not top 10. Rice might get in but he's not a lock.

'The '02 Bucs defense wasn't that great,' is what you just wrote. Seriously Mike, you gotta put down that pipe now, and seek help. What infamous line did Whitney Houston leave us with, and it was much like yours right there, "crack wasn't that great, but very whack." I gotta bring some levity here, a little laughter, cause saying a defense, which won a Super Bowl, in the same fashion as the '00 Ravens and '85 Bears did, but you say isn't top 10 all-time, is whack! That must only be in your all-time top 10, right? It is without question, and with four hall of famers to support the greatness label, but also by the fact that this Defensive unit brought the Tampa Bay franchise its 1st Super Bowl, makes them top 10. Though please tell me nine defensive units, in the history of the game, who you think are better. Though please, before you start this list, pass that pipe to me, I'd love whatever it is that your smoking.

It gets very old when you keep saying whoever disagrees with you must be on drugs. The Bucs weren't even in the Top 5 THAT year against the rush. The '91 Eagles were No. 1 against the run AND the pass and gave up 30 fewer yards a game rushing. The '85 Bears gave up 20 fewer yds a game rushing. You have your opinion, I have mine.

Very much appreciated Gary.

Vulagar, sure I guess you can interpret that anyway you want but actually tongue and cheek, Mike and I have engaged in conversations like this for three decades now. What wasn't delusional, is what I, a die hard Eagles fan, can objectively opinion here, in respect to this Tampa Bay defense, which all but shutdown our Eagles offense on that day That defense was in fact great. I shouldn't let my personal bias cloud me from the truth, and Mike here is clouded from that truth and also in who he thinks should shoulder most if not all of the blame. Yes, Donovan should be called out for his poor play, least we forget that EVERY play during that game was called in by Big Red. Donovan was never given that freedom, to change the play at the line or quickly check out of it when he saw something he didn't like. So Mike can say Andy didn't throw the ball to Ronde in that game, but Donovan had to carry out that play, even if he got a look he didn't like.
Now what might be seen as vulgar is you Gary B, making fun of fat people, but specifically Donovan, with a few of your comments seen here. I guess he did alright for whatever physical limitations you and Mike believe he had, so do say such mean spirited stuff again and again, is counterproductive to an objective dialogue here. The comments you both make in regards to Donovan are personal and only seek to diminish the person, not the QB who won how many playoff games, but Mike is the journalist here, right?

I've never met Donovan McNabb so the only opinions I've formed of him are of him as a QB. If he was out of shape, which he was, that's not a personal fault, it's a professional one as he had a responsibility as a pro to be in shape enough not to throw up during games, which he did more than once. I don't think "objectively" you really think I was taking drugs while disagreeing with you. Furthermore, Mcnabb didn't have the freedom to change plays based on the look he got because Andy knew Mcnabb didn't know what he was looking at. Just ask Mike Shanahan and Frazier and they'll say the same thing.

Porter, of course they were a good matchup. That's why the Eagles beat them the previous 2 years in the playoffs and earlier the SAME year as the playoff game. The Eagles, and particularly Mcnabb, choked.

You two are a trip, to now make-up a diagnosis of a personality disorder, which you Dr Gary B just stated, where does this piling on Donovan end. Of course Mike isn't on drugs, but seriously what planet are both of you from. What I was saying in my tongue and cheek response is the ridiculousness of not acknowledging that '02 Bucs defense isn't great, just so you can further diminish Donovan, The Eagles did win the previous two meetings vs the Bucs before that NFC Championship loss, so your using that fact, to support your misguided belief that this Bucs defense wasn't great. When did Gruden take over this Bucs team, and in what year did they win the Super Bowl. So please Mike, I think the world of you and your wisdom which you are now expressing here, but you & Dr Gary need to mask your visceral hate for Donovan a bit better here, cause it without question diminishes anything else you might state which does sound intelligent.
Here are the clear facts that support the greatness of that defense.
Simeon Rice - 122 career sacks 13th all time.
Derrick Brooks - 11 pro bowls selections, 9 1st team all pro selections & '02 AP Defensive player of the year
Warren Sapp - 7 pro bowls, 4 1st team all pro, 99 NFL Defensive POY, 97 career sacks is 2nd all time for a defensive tackle
John Lynch - 9 pro bowls, 4 1st team all pro selections
Ronde Barber - 5 pro bowls, 4 1st team all pro, 1st CB in NFL history to have 20 sacks and 20 INTs in a career, 43 career INTs.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-couch/201204/what-makes-people-talk-too-much

The visceral hate of Donovan comes from the way he played and the way his personality disorder affected the Eagle's fortunes so it's legit. Gary B. is correct in his diagnosis and that performance on ESPN was just the tip of a very large iceberg.
Gruden took over the Bucs about 8 games before the Eagles beat them in the regular season. About 8 games before Mcnabb choked against them in the NFC Championship Game as he did in Jan. 2004 and January 2008 and Dec. 2009- with his air guitar.

Lastly...the Bucs game was almost ten years ago.

The article is about the upcoming 2012 season, if I'm not mistaken

You're correct Gary. Enough of the sidetrack. Let's look forward. Offensive preview up tomorrow.

It's gooooooooood!!

Yeah Brett Farve probably talked to much too, no wait Joe Theismann talked way too much, could we agree on that. Farve has one Super Bowl ring and Joe has two, but both in different ways rubbed many the wrong way by talking to much. Jerry Glanville, once the Falcons coach, truly hated Brett Farve and the way he ran his mouth all the time. So when Packers GM Ron Wolf came knocking with a 1st rd pick for Brett, a former 2nd round pick, everyone in the Atlanta organization jumped for joy to unload him, but also what they got in return, which ended up being the 19th pick in the '92 draft. McNabb isn't anywhere close to as talented as Brett, right, but any amateur shrink wouldn't deny that they both have an over inflated sense of worth. I'd say they are playing a position which is the most scrutinized of any position in any sport, and that the NFL is the most popular sport in our country. So I think they are both over projecting and your both way overreaching. That if Donovan had the same amount of Lombardi trophies as Brett, you wouldn't even bring this non-sense up.
You could argue that Donovan has better career passing stats than Joe. The fact is both Mike Holmgren and Joe Gibbs are better coaches than Andy Reid. If Joe T had never found his way out of the CFL to win two SB's with the Skins, you would have never had to hear him run his mouth, which he and Jaws both continue to do to this day, both as highly articulate & respected analysts.

If Mcnabb ever won a Superbowl, he could say whatever he wanted. He never did, never will and never COULD... so he should shut up.

Yeah great you spent a few dinners with Donovan, and he might be passive aggressive, but you have expertise or training in the field of psychology, right, or are you talking out of your. How are you connecting the two, with your expertise in football and psychology, I and I strongly suspect others who are Eagles fans are long ago tired of hearing Donovan blamed for everything, because they hate the person, which has nothing to do with his successes on the field. You couldn't even construct one point here that had anything to do with what skills he lacks and how those short comings equated to the Eagles losing NFC Championship games. Tell me something like he doesn't throw a good short to medium range pass, we've all seen the duck balls or flat out missed targets. It is foolish not to think that this sport, which is the ultimate team sport, didn't have many members of the Eagles organization, whose collective mistakes and short comings combined, are the real reasons why we haven't won a title under the Reid regime, and not one individual who you both don't like cause if his personality. Sure argue, that's what your doing and all the McNabb haters have for years, I am just defending, cause you all really have no argument and I know that Reid and his coaching staff, along with the front office and college scouting and lastly James Thrash, Chad Lewis and Todd Pinkston all came up short, along with Donovan. Move forward Mike, but Gary B bring something factual next time.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/hide-and-seek/201204/behold-the-lamb-god-scapegoating-ego-defense