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Applebees Fires Waitress For Exposing Tip-Skipper, Then Tries To Silence Public on Social Media

If you haven’t yet heard about the saga of the Applebees waitress and the tip-skipping pastor, you’re in for a real treat. In a nutshell, waitress Chelsea Welch was fired from Applebees for snapping a picture of a customer’s receipt with a note that read “I give God 10% why do you get 18?” The automatic 18% gratuity Applebees adds to parties of 6 more had been scratched out. On the additional gratuity line, there was a big fat zero. It was clear this was one customer who really didn’t want to leave a tip.

It was Welch’s co-worker that actually received the note, but Welch is the one who snapped the photo and posted it to Reddit. The internet then promptly exploded to a degree unseen since Steven Slater made his hasty exit down an airplane escape hatch.

When the paster, Alois Bell, found out her nasty tome had gone viral, she called Applebees and demanded everyone who works there be fired immediately. Perhaps Applebees thought that suggestion just slightly excessive, but they threw the pastor a bone by firing Welch, fanning the flames of the already blazing inferno of social media admonishment.

Most folks are on the side of Welch, and have taken to Applebees Facebook page and Twitter to express their well-placed outrage. In fact, Applebees has almost 20,000 comments (most calling for a boycott of the restaurant) under their excuse, which reads:

We wish this situation hadn’t happened. Our Guests’ personal information – including their meal check – is private, and neither Applebee’s nor its franchisees have a right to share this information publicly. We value our Guests’ trust above all else. Our franchisee has apologized to the Guest and has taken disciplinary action with the Team Member for violating their Guest’s right to privacy.

The problem is, Applebees themselves posted a receipt with a customer’s signature visible  on Facebook just a little while ago, so it seems it’s just fine to post a customer’s name when it’s in Applebee’s best interest. And, in the case of Chelsea Welch, the note was addressed directly to a server. Would that not make the note the server’s to do with as she pleases?

Furthermore, servers rely on tips to make a living, and when we dine in a restaurant, we’re forming an implied contract with the restaurant and the server. According to wisegeek.com:

Sometimes… a term or the entire contract itself is implied. For example, when a customer orders food at a restaurant, he or she enters into an implied, oral contract. The customer and the server do not explicitly state the offer and acceptance for the meal and its prices, taxes and other conditions, but that agreement is implied.

Businessdictionary.com explains it this way:

…a contract is implied when a party knowingly accepts a benefit from another party in circumstances where the benefit cannot be considered a gift. Therefore, the party accepting the benefit is under a legal obligation to give fair value for the benefit received.

The “other conditions” in the wisegeek.com definition could imply the socially set custom of tipping the server if there was no problem with the service, while the “fair value for the benefit received” in the businessdictionary.com should certainly include the tip.

Furthermore, servers are obligated to the IRS to pay a baseline amount on tips received, whether or not the server actually received them. So, it would be possible for a server to lose money at their profession if everyone acted like Alois Bell. Since Applebees pays servers as low as $2 per hour, well under minimum wage, it is incumbent upon the customer to pay fair value for the service received under the terms of the implied contract we have with the restaurant and the server when we sit down. As waitress Chelsea Welch points out in her article in the UK paper The Guardian, "tips are not optional. They are how waiters get paid in America."

It is baffling why Applebee’s would side with one angry, stingy pastor rather than listen to the voice of the community as a whole. In fact, not only are they not listening, they actually appear to have removed the ability for people to make comments directly to their Facebook page entirely when previously that ability was available. Since I first wrote this article, the thread with the 19,000 + negative comments has also disappeared. Luckily, folks are not that easy to censor. Every time Applebees tries to explain themselves, thousands more negative comments pour in. A new "Boycott Applebees" Facebook page has also been set up.

Unfortunately for them, the internet cannot and will not be silenced. I refer the corporate suits at Applebees to the case of Chik Fil A. According to the Examiner:

Market analysts foresee a decline in revenue when reports come out later this year, due to the summer mayhem caused by the controversy. With protests, loss of revenue and counter-protests, the company ultimately saw more of a benefit in attempting to restore a more positive image of Chick-Fil-A restaurants.

This statement comes after a similarly widespread brouhaha online after Chik Fil A founder S. Truett Cathy made some unsavory comments about gay marriage. You see, sometimes the internet is a democracy, and as a democrary, the people vote with their voices and their wallets.

If Applebees thinks they’re “too big to fail,” they’re most likely sorely mistaken. It would behoove them to re-hire Chelsea Welch and issue an apology for their socially unacceptable behavior, or they may find themselves facing a lot of lost revenue at the end of the year. After all, isn’t the bottom line what matters most? It surely isn’t their employees, it seems, so they should listen to the money instead, and the money (aka 20,000 + outraged customers) is telling them to right this wrong.

Rule 1 customer comes 1st

11:06 am on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Just becuz the customer was wrong doesnt mean the stupid waitress should take the info and publish it. She should be fired. I would fire any of my employees if they insult and embarrass a customer. Im sure not the 1st time someone left a small tip. Did she post and embarrass them all. Rule 1. The customer always comes 1st.

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Esta Polyester

1:43 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Businesses post the pictures of customers who steal, and the checks that bounce all of the time. Why is it different here.
Furthermore, this customer didn't just steal waitress services, they insulted them while doing it. Chelsea did society a favor by showing people that there are consequences to being a dick to people who wait on you without even knowing if they'll be paid for it or not.

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Rule 1 customer comes 1st

3:24 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Patrons stiff tips all the time. That's not stealing. Stealing would not be paying for the meal. Applebees did the right thing to fire the waitress who was so stupid and irresponsible to post the information.

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Melanie Slone

3:30 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Oh yes, the customer is always right...and there are thousands of customers who want Chelsea to be offered her job back.

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bigben

3:57 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

wrong, your attitude is what emboldens customers to be such AHOles. There are limits to what comes 1st means. Doesn't mean they can harass and demean your workers. By the way, it was the Pastor's insulting note that prompted the posting, not just because she didn't leave a tip.

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davio gallio-away

4:09 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Yes okay, customer is always right. BUT the is an example of when a customer attacks an employee. This customer in writing attacked the service team member in writing and took it upon herself to scratch out company policy of 18% tip, which had already been enforced before the ink of the pen scribbled thru the $6.29 line. Now if a company cannot stand up to a customer that obviusly attacked the team member and complained in writing that she is above company policy. That is an example of customer doing the wrong thing, she is not right.

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Leilita

6:10 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

You are wrong...it is called theft of service! In fact people should be forced to tip first(T.I.P. To Insure Promptitude)...then they would get the service that they pay for instead of running their server ragged for peanuts and insults!! Also, did you know that in a lot of these restaurants, they hold the server responsible when someone walks out on their meal? They have the choice to either pay for the check or they can take a write up...get three of those and you are fired!! The customer is NOT always right...a lot of the time they are just assholes!!

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Jamith

1:02 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

Based on your lack of eloquence, I'm going to assume you will most likely never be in a position where you would have the ability to hire and fire people...

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Sherri

8:22 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

Yes, the customer does come first, BUT a true Pastor would of never wrote something so RUDE! I just believe with this situation, termination was not the answer. If the waitress was to be fired so should the pastor for giving her church a bad name!!!!!!!!!!! Who wants to go to a church with a pastor so hateful???

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LORA FANTER

10:09 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

A tip is to me part of the meal. If you do not want to pay for a waitress...they offer to go service or you go to a restaurant like McDonalds which has no waitress. Then you order the food yourself, pick it up yourself, and fill your own soda. When a waitress does that for a large table you pay her. And every grown person who has ever eaten at an establishment knows tip is added to large parties. She had five adults and five kids. Did she clean up herself after those kids. No...the staff did...that is what the tip pays for. You pay for more than a meal. When you pay to have a shirt dry cleaned...do you only pay for the cleaning products or the service? When you have a car repaired do you only pay for the parts or for the labor? Do you stiff your mechanic too? Stupid comment by a stupid business owner. I agree they have the right to fire her but don't give me the customer is always right. And the pastor embarrassed herself. She is the only one in control of her actions and if she did not want her comment reread by anyone she should not have put it into writing. She did not even have the courage to say it to the waitress in person...she cowardly wrote it down and left it for others to read.

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Cemetery

1:08 am on Friday, February 8, 2013

"Rule 1. The customer always comes 1st."
No. The employee comes first. When the employee comes first you get better performance out of your workers, and that means a better experience for your customer. Maybe if Applebees paid their servers more then $3.50/hr you wouldn't have a disgruntled employee in the first place. Ever think of that? In my company my employees come first, I would rather lose 1 irate, angry, or insulting customer then one of my hard working employees.

P.S. Did you even read the entire article? It seems Applebees posted a customer name on it's FB page prior to this incident. Bit of a double standard don't you think?

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John

11:19 am on Friday, February 8, 2013

Why is she stupid? Because she made a poor decision? Geeez, must be nice to be perfect, even when you were 20 (or however old she is). Get over yourself. I agree with you, the business had to make a decision, and people can't be posting reciepts/names and stuff on the website, but seriously, relax....she made a mistake, and she didn't take up the fight....the media and public did.. None of this adds up to her being stupid.

Larry Johnston

12:39 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

PAYING customers come first. Accepting service and not paying for it is theft of service. The waitress is assigned a ticket for the bill which is reported to IRS by Applebees and she is taxed based on it, people bully service workers because employers don't stand up for them and while I understand the privacy issue would lead to termination most anywhere, I am glad to see the customer who wants to receive service and not pay for it get embarrassed. If the customer stole from Applebees they would take issue, but steal from the employee's bottom line, they could care less. This is how these folks make a living, and if you are too cheap to pay for service based on our standards of gratuity DON"T GO OUT TO EAT. As a manager in a different service industry I don't feel the customer is always right. When they are right they are right .....but I feel my business benefits from having employees who feel like they are supported, respected and their boss has their back. People work harder and roll with things more when I need it.

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Rule 1 customer comes 1st

3:25 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Boo Hoo. Where does it say he didn't pay for the meal? If he stole, where's the police report. Not tipping or low tipping may be ignorant but its not theft. You know what is theft. A bunch of deadbeats who pay no income taxes but get free government benefits.

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Jamith

1:27 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

Rule 1, get your facts straight. The pastor was a lady. And when did this become about welfare? Let's talk about the cheap Pastor who runs a tax exempt church. It's okay, though. I'm glad you were fortunate enough to never have had to work in the service industry. Too bad your weren't fortunate enough to get some education in the mean time...

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Sherri

8:25 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

@ Larry- we need more employers like you because people do give it their all when their employer supports them!!!!!!!!!

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Mark Sanford

3:05 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Give me a freakin break. The notion that not tipping constitutes "theft of service" is quite simply the stupidest thing I have read on this subject. I am not obligated to tip someone, nor is there some sort of law that states otherwise, just as their is no law forcing this now-fired idiot to apply for a job as a waitress.

michael

12:39 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

the waitress did not show thecustomers name - though if she did - she should get fired - but some holier than thou moron who doenst think she deserves a tip is and idiot - these people make less than minimum wage to wait on ignorant self centered morons who dont even know how to say thank you. everyone should work as wait staff once in thier life to under stand what it is like - and for the customer comes first - in theory its a great idea - in pactice a lot harder - if your dealing with the self centered egos that live on the main line - the barely look at you and have no idea what real manners are -

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Clayton

1:12 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Hogwash. I owned restaurants for years, all over the nation. Rule number one is NOT 'the customer is always right'. There are some customers who cost far more than they are worth. This is a simple case of a group, not a single person, a group, of apparently twenty people. It is likely that is the only group that waitress worked for the entire time they were there. Then they knowingly and intentionally attempted to stiff her of her tip. Literally not pay her for her services. These people are so tight, so cheap, that their business is literally not worth having. If I had been the manager, I would have discreetly confronted them, explained the difference between frugality and cheapness, and asked them to please frequent another establishment in the future (all assuming they were happy with the service and food to begin with). Was the server in the right by posting the receipt? IF she had not included the signature, sure. With the signature, she should have, at most, gotten a reprimand. And maybe lost a nights work. I stood up for my employees when it came to bullies and cheapskates. My restaurants were successful, and my employee turnover averaged less than 1/4 of the industry average. Food for thought to the bean counters at corporate headquarters. Doing the right thing for employees, as well as customers, is always good business.

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Leilita

6:13 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Thank you for posting that!! We really need more employers like you in this country!! :-)

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Sherri

8:28 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

@ Clayton!!!!!!!!!!! I agree with you 100%

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tolegirl

1:16 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Well said, Clayton! Thank You!!

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John Q. Public

7:07 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013

No, Clayton, you would not have. If you did, the NAACP would be all over you. Some restaurants - like Denny's - have done what you suggested, for the exact same reason, and paid a heavy price. Some groups do not like to tip, and there's nothing you can do about it. The waitress, who they basically stole from, now knows that. I've worked in restaurants, where certain groups would find reasons not to pay for the meal itself, and stiff the wait staff. It's pretty common in some areas.

Jacqueline

1:12 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

I feel really bad for the managers that have to deal with this backlash. As a server I know that some days will be better than others. We get bad tips sometimes, but most times the good outweighs the bad. The pastor did act in an inappropriate manner, but guess what that happens. If you are a good server and mature you just learn to let things like that go. Unfortunately, I have to side with the management. It was not right for the server to post this online. Anyone that runs a business knows that this is not appropriate and it is not someone I would want representing my business. I feel that Chelsea has some growing to do before accepting another serving position. The pastor was wrong for doing what she did, but Chelsea was also in the wrong. For the record I do not work for a corporate restaurant. Corporate restaurants generally have horrible policies regarding employees and they do not provide realistic training on how to handle customer service conflicts. I hope people realize that both of the people involved in this situation were in the wrong and management handled this situation the way they should have.

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Leilita

6:17 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Chelsea did us all a public service...she did what most of us want to do, but are too afraid!! I thank her for the opportunity to discuss how bad these restaurants are!

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Mark

2:46 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

I have to wonder if the group did more than refuse to tip. I've never worked as a wait staff but my daughter has. I've been made aware of groups that are rude, sending food back for no reason but to claim that they don't need to tip; and rude, messing up the area they are in beyond normal expectations. This action, while technically improper probably helped Chelsea emotionally, and will hopefully make the rest of us appreciate the wait staff even more.

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Tonia Wright

4:03 am on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

I'm sorry i do not agree with you and i am a server also have been for 28 years, the pastor gave up her infringement to privacy when she insulted the server and the manager became another corporate ass kisser when he fired the server for this, she did not show the card # just the signature and insult and then the pastor got upset because she was called out on her insult also it is ok for them to post receipts with customers names clearly on them with comments of praise but not ok for the server to post one with an insult...thats a double standard dont you think!!!

Angie

1:12 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

I agree with Michael. I think if your rude enough to write it then you shouldn't be so upset when everyone knows of it. I think a Pastor of all people should be less rude & have more patience. Didn't the Pastor ever hear of WWJD?

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Ross

1:22 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

“I give God 10% why do you get 18?” --um, because God doesn't get paid less than minimum wage to wait on d-bags like you all day. That's why. Seriously folks, waiting tables is hard, back-breaking work that requires physical stamina, mental clarity, and great customer service skills, all working in tandem to make sure customers get what they want. If every high school student was required to wait tables for a semester, there's be a lot more respect and appreciation for service workers--who happen to be the largest growing segment of our economy. Down with cheapskates! This customer deserved to be shamed.

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Rule 1 customer comes 1st

3:27 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

How about when service sucks and no one leaves a tip!!!!! Then what!! Waiters and waitresses suck all the time. They don't deserve any money for that

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bigben

4:01 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

not if I treat them with some respect and dignity. I've had service so royal that I tipped more than the meal. It is very very rare that this happens, but I know what great service is.

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William Stephens

11:04 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

I would hazard to guess that you have never been a server, those of us that have are very good tippers, we don't punish a server because of a kitchen mistake.

If you don't want to tip going rate you should stay home or go to McDonalds.

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Joe

2:37 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

As a former server for more than 15 years, I experienced just about all. I've had customers break items and throw stuff at me because they got hammered at a bar prior to sitting down to eat; and I always handled it in a professional manner. That doesn't mean I rolled over and allowed them to treat me disrespectfully. I involved my manager & dealt with them professionally.

Rule 1 customer comes 1st - Realizing you have no clue of the service industry, I will put it simply. When you dine out you are required to pay for services received. This is not limited to the cost of the food and drinks you consume. If your server is lowsy, you should at least pay the 7% - 9% they are taxed by the IRS for each check they write. If you are a business owner as you imply in your original post; would you allow a customer to not pay the required tax for your service? Why should it be different if it is the wait staffs required tax that should be honored by the customer as part of the implied contract?

We've experienced lowsy service, but like a reader posted before me, I take everything into account and determine if the fault is with the waiter/waitress. If the server is at fault I still pay the industry standard of 18%, but will inform the manager so they can address the problem.

If you as a customer receive service that is so horrific to warrant no tip; why would you allow it to continue without addressing it immediately with the manager and getting it corrected? No excuse!

Chik fil a

3:58 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

How did the protest at chik fil a work out for ya? Hahahahahahahah. I will now dine at crappy applebees and chik fil a. Good for them.

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Diner

4:08 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Good, I see the Rebel flag crowd is supporting you and Chik Fil A. That should save you Applebees!

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Chik fil a

4:21 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Better than the food stamps crowd!

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LORA FANTER

10:03 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013

You could not possibly be implying that the customers at Chik fil a are classier than Applebees...that is ridiculous! I don't eat at chik fil a because it is overpriced fried chicken. It is crappy fast food. Neither offer high quality food nor at the cheapest prices for what you get. I am not the biggest fan of Applebees so no loss there either but I don't think one implies a better class of clientele after having been to both. If I want fast food I would rather go to Culver's or Wendy's anyway!

William Hicks

4:22 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Applebee's is committing corporate suicide by trying to justify their questionable reaction on social media. The pr person responsible for the posts is sadly mistaken if they think they put the fire out. In reality they poured gasoline on the flames. According to Applebees' this is not ta case of the customer being right. quoting from their post, "Please note that we are also not excusing the Guest's behavior in this matter and the unacceptable comment she wrote on the receipt, which is offensive to us and all our hard working team members." The firing of Chelsea Welch was an overreaction that they can quickly and quietly correct by hiring her back. If she wants to come back....

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johnnyhood

4:14 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

I think she should be hire back and a be pay for any wages she lost and if she does get hire back and except the job back she needs to get back on facebook or what ever takes to let everybody know truthly that she got it back with pay. just think all the business that applebees will be losing from this mishap was applebees the one that fire her or the manager of that store they should fire him for not backing the waiter up ,it was them that put that 20% on there not her. Closest applebee we have is 50-60 miles away I will not be eating at any of there store when looking for a place to eat.

Kyle

5:38 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

I guess I'm the only one thinking "What did this waitress do wrong to piss off a pastor?". I'm not a fan of the "automatic" tip. In most jobs, you encounter great, average and poor customers. A waitress does not have it any harder than other customer service positions. She made had it coming when she posted it on a social media site. She should have vented or gone home. Then she could have started the next day anew. You never take back words spoken, or in this case photos posted.

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William Stephens

11:08 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Big parties are hard to serve and they always short you on the tip. You serve 6, 8, or 10 people at one table you are lucky to get the amount of the bill let alone the tip.

Plus as a a rule groups of blacks are lousy customers, they are rude, nasty, they complain about everything, they snap their fingers at you, it is like they are punishing you for slavery.

TL

8:15 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

“I give God 10% why do you get 18?”

Oh, boo hoo. I give my government about 40% in taxes.

The wife and I both waited tables when we were younger. Its one of the most physically demanding jobs out there, and you're paid minimum wage for it. Sure, we had great customers that tipped - but there were many that paid without a tip, depsite being given great service. Perhaps the pastor should work a day in their shoes to see how difficult a job it really is.

When eating out, unless the service is abysmal, I give a 20% tip.

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Pundit

10:20 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

It never ceases to me amaze how exceedingly cheap those who claim to be among those most blessed by the christian lord. LOL! It is as if they actually think their saying “Jesus loves me” gives them a right to be perfect bores. The waitress was right and neither Applebee nor any church or church related charity will ever see my money again.
Praise be to the true gods on high: Zeus, Apollo, Thor, Mars, Mercury, Aphrodite, Poseidon, most holy Fortuna, and all other the true living gods. LOL! Let’s bring back the true old fashioned religious values of our ancestors. LOL!

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Earnest

10:30 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

Unless someone has been a server they have no idea how hard the work is and how horrible some of the customers can be. That's not to say that all servers are great, but it is very hard work and those who have done the job and done the job well are the best tippers.

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youthminister

1:10 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

And pastor if your only giving god 10% something is not right with you how would you like it if he only gave you 10%?

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Kelly Frap

2:44 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013

You read my mind as I was reading through all these posts! Good words! Jesus says to give what you have. Whether it be 5%, 10% or 90% He knows our hearts. Her lack of paying a lousy $6 tip really shows her heart.

Blackwood resident

7:56 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

who cares, stop sending me this crap on facebook

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Pundit

9:52 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

Jesus can say nothing. He, like as with all humans will do, died 2,000 years ago if he ever existed in the first place. The chance he actually existed is unlikely. After all, there are no Roman accounts of his existence, death, or even of any his noteworthy miracles such as feeding the multitudes of up to 5,000 people! The only accounts of Jesus are in the gospels, and the first of them was written almost 200 years after his alleged crucifixion. And the gospels were poorly written propaganda written to win converts to a cult. Even the four accounts of the birth of Jesus in the gospels widely differ. Each account tries to outdo the previous one with Cecil DE Mille dramatics.
Jesus and the gospels would have been long forgotten if the ancient kings had not discovered their jobs were protected by claiming their rule was in accordance with a god. Who would want to challenge their king if the king claimed he was divine by god’s commandment? Most modern day christians think their belief means they are also divinely protected which means they can treat everyone else as dirt. Just like pastors who give sermons when they fail to tip.

I support bringing back traditional religious values. Mighty Zeus is the real thing. LOL!

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Occupant

11:59 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

Pundit ... I was being Facetious.. but thanks for the "Sermon"

Meghan

10:11 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

The server should get her job back, the customer is just rude. But keep in minds what TIPS mean. TIPS = To Insure Proper Service. There is no theft of service, the pastor was just a cheap woman who was snarky as well.

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Earle Leo Nelson Jr.

10:19 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

I know lets raise all the prices on the menus so the establishments can pay their wait staffs $18 Dollars an hour. Would you like that, Rule 1 customer comes 1st? That way you'd be paying the tip without knowing it and these kinds of things wouldn't happen again. We don't tip McDonalds, Burger King or any of the small fast food craps, so lets make it fair for our regular, hard working wait staffs. I think its time. They deserve it and they do work very hard, I know, I started out as a dishwasher back in the 80's at $2.85 cents an hour. It is not a fun job and by the way I always tip 20% it makes up for the losers tipping like crap.

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Sally Jesse Rafael

10:44 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

That little wipper snapper got what was coming her way. Waiters these days are the worst.

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Lisa Nuzzo

8:50 am on Monday, February 11, 2013

No we are not! Thank God not everyone is like you!

Waitress

11:15 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

I have worked at Applebees and I can tell you the average tip most customers leave is like 10-12%. some do 15 and more but most don't. this guy was a jerk but I would have asked him if I did something wrong or how could i earn more next time instead of attacking him. 2 wrongs don't make a right

Next time anyone eats out and gets good service, please tip 15% or more. thanks

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Maryann Campling

11:19 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

I have always been a generous tipper, but became more so many years ago after having worked at a well-known Cherry Hill restaurant. Sure, some people were lovely and appreciative of my service....they had real class. But the morons who came in, sometimes with their out of control kids who made a mess of their area, who were rude, demanding, critical, etc. always left the WORST tips! I know there are good servers and bad servers, gracious customers and customers from hell, that's a fact that will never change. Keep smiling!

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youthminister

11:22 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

According to Applebees' this is not ta case of the customer being right. quoting from their post, "Please note that we are also not excusing the Guest's behavior in this matter and the unacceptable comment she wrote on the receipt, which is offensive to us and all our hard working team members." The firing of Chelsea Welch was an overreaction that they can quickly and quietly correct by hiring her back. If she wants to come back....

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Montrell Swilliams

11:48 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

I agree with Sally Jesse, waiters are the worst and should be tipping the customers, not receiving tips.

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Lisa Nuzzo

8:44 am on Monday, February 11, 2013

Maybe since you probably don't tip, servers don't want to waist their time on you....I'm a great waitress and I work my butt off for my tables. Try it some time, it's not easy especially when it's ignorant people like you!

Waiting on U

12:28 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

I would definitely work for Clayton! The customer is NOT always right, and in this case is a cheap no good loser! If the customer wrote the note to the waitress and signed it, and that is what was posted, then that's her decision as well. It is not private, both parties are aware of the note. If that was my daughter busting her butt for 20 people and then after waiting on them as her only customer and getting $4 for her 2 hours of work ($2 per hour with no tip), I would be trashing that person as well, and whatever so-called Church they were associated with! Everyone knows tips are their salary when you walk in.
HOWEVER!!! Every waitress and restaurant SHOULD clearly state that the gratuity is already added on!!! I have seen plenty of times where they think they can basically steal an extra 15 to 20% off the customers!!!!! And why is it 18% anyway?? 15 is normal…… 10 for bad service, and 20+ for very good to excellent. So, what if the waitress was horrible??? They still get 18%… Now that's BS. But this is not the case here… this is a cheap SOB with NO values!

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Porterincollingswood

1:30 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

What is this, 1963?

16% is standard, 20% is normal. You can go up for holidays or excellent service. As someone above stated, if you don't want to tip then go to Burger King. Can't afford the tip? Then you can't afford to eat there.

Non-tipping is never appropriate unless the server is outright rude or insulting. And if you are unhappy with the food or its condition, you still tip. Don't penalize the server for the kitchen or chef dropping the ball - that's why your food is late / cold / salty. Have a talk with the hostess / manager about that.

You want to punish the restaurant for a bad meal? Tip 16% and never go back. That's what an adult does.

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Waitress

1:32 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Mr Porter I wish you were one of my regulars. less than 50% tip more than 15% always no matter what. Some take the table for 3 hours and leave 10% when I could have seen 3 turns and made more.

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Catherine

1:43 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Remember one of the adages in "Life's Little Instruction Book?" ?
Overtip breakfast waitresses.

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Porterincollingswood

2:14 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Catherine, great point. Tipping by % is not appropriate for breakfast. You need to throw at least $2 on that $4.99.

That's too bad to hear people are so cheap, but its to be expected I guess. Especially when 90% of them are probably awful at their jobs. I mean, how many people who demand "extraordinary service" from their servers even give a C- effort at what they do? Probably zero.

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Porterincollingswood

2:16 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Oh, and if you get a discount (kids eat free) you should be factoring that into the tip. The server still did the work despite the lack of a charge.

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Waiting on U

11:20 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Yeah Porter, you're a genius! No, sorry, bad service gets a bad tip! Like you said yourself, when I do my job, I do it for the customer. If I don't work hard, I don't get paid or lose money, so when I go in a restaurant, I expect the service to be good. I generally tip about 15%, 20 if the service is good, and more on sales and breakfast deals etc. I've paid a bill before for a party of 8 that was well over $300 and left an $80 tip, and then found out later that an 18% gratuity was already added in. Yeah, perhaps our fault for not seeing it, but BS, they should have told us it was in there. That's theft be deception in my book. So, also I guess in 1963 tips percentages were lower?? Do they go up every year with the minimum wage or something?? Yea, I didn't think so….. D.A. Go back to Burger King Porter

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Porterincollingswood

8:08 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

For a minute I thought you were being sarcastic...

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Porterincollingswood

8:27 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

WoU - I've never been in a situation where I've really had "bad" service that wasn't related to the kitchen (took forever), or lack of attention due to the place being jammed and understaffed, or the fact that it just opened, or something like that. I've never, in those cases, seen what good withholding a few $'s would do.

What's the point? And since stiffing on the tip impacts the server and busboys (in places where the split the tips, which may be everywhere) you're punishing a lot of people for what may be the fault of one person (chef or hostess or manager).

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LORA FANTER

5:37 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013

WaitingonU...was this your very first time out as an adult with a large party? Because it is standard to have tip added on with large parties. It is usually stated on the menu...so that means you missed it twice. And it was not a very expensive place if 8 people ate for 300 bucks...you must have all gotten waters and no alcoholic beverages for the bill to be so low. Which tips get split with bartenders as well as bus persons.

Harry Houweiney

1:25 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Here's a tip, get a real job if you wanna make them dolla dolla bills yall.

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Catherine

1:39 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

If you aren't willing to pay a server for attending to you (taking your orders, lugging heavy plates while you sit on your 'chair'), do a potluck dinner somewhere. Use paper products for your chicken and macaroni casseroles and serve yourself from 2 liter bottles of diet soda. People know by now that gratuities are automatically included for large groups. Show me a menu where it's not mentioned.

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Porterincollingswood

2:40 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

And maybe reward the restaurants that treat their staff well...

http://rocunited.org/dinersguide/

Because when Darden makes it so that sick food prep people /servers can't take off, they come in and handle your food. And then you get sick.

And when a chain makes it so that the children of their employees have to go on CHIP, all they've done is pass on an operating cost to the taxpayers.

I think those are things we can all agree are offensive. Oh, and Applebees is among the worst.

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Meghan

3:14 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

PorterinCollingswood...not for nothing but Darden owns Red Lobster, Olive Garden, Bahama Breeze, Seasons 52, Capital Grille, Corner Bakery & a few more.

Applebees is corporate owned & franchised own.

So perhaps it is the franchise owner who is instilling different rules.

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Porterincollingswood

8:02 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

I was making a larger point about the industry, not related to this specific scenario.

As for this story, I actually think James below sums it up fairly. It is what it is.

James DeLizzio

4:58 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

*Sigh* This employee was NOT an Applebee's Employee. They were an employee of a Franchise. Applebee's has nothing directly to do with the hiring and/or firing of employees.

The "pastor" was in error for her actions.

The employee was in error and in violation of the Franchises Social Media Policy and was rightfully terminated.

Applebees handled the issue on their Social Media web site poorly.

Why can't people see this?

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Waitress

5:13 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Because ignorance is blind? Was that a trick question

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Waiting on U

11:31 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Why can't people see what? This WAS an Applebee's Employee. THIER name is on the sign, on the uniform and on the nametag. The Pastor is a cheap skimmer who should be fired. How can the employee be in violation of the Franchises (AppleBee's) Social Media Policy if she didn't work for them? Apparently Applebees posted a nice note just before this, so they violated their own policy, but that's okay???? Wrong… the waitress was practically robbed by the Pastor, its like a mechanic putting your engine in and then you saying, I don't pay for labor!!!! Give her her job back.
If I'm waitressing, I'm gonna be busting my butt for you to EARN a great tip! If you then stiff me after busting my butt on you for 2 hours, I'd watch what you drove out in and you will pay it down the road….. remember that when you stiff someone.

youthminister

5:13 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

James please see the whole story here befor you start making assumptions... This Applebee's WAS part of the corporation.Furthuremore this same location posted a identical photo not even a month earlier... So it's right for them to do it but not her?????

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LORA FANTER

1:00 am on Sunday, February 10, 2013

Not the same location. The incident happened at the Saint Louis City location on Chippewa. The picture of the good comment receipt was posted by the Saint Louis County South County Mall location on Lindbergh. I live in South Saint Louis County.

Leigh

9:57 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Why do you Americans pay your waitstaff so poorly. The minimum casual wage is $20/hr in Australia so we don't need to tip and we almost always get excellent service.

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Lisa Nuzzo

10:02 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

I have been a server for 10 years now. I worked for Ruby Tuesday for 8 years and it was awful. The management and the Corporation in general was all about money and would fire employees at the drop of a hat. I have been working for Applebees for the last year and a half and must say, they are a wonderful corporation to work for. The manner in which they treat their employees is amazing. I am so happy here. They treat their employees with respect and get respect back tenfold. I get rude guests often and I get really nice people too. I get bad tips or no tip from some tables but I get extra good tips from others. Some days I get so discouraged because of ignorant people who treat you like a slave and leave you nothing. They take your time away from other tables with their constant whining and complaining when there is clearly nothing wrong. They just want control or they are simply "spoiled" people who think the world revolves around them. Or they want free food. I work very hard and professionally to please my guests and all of the guests that come into the restaurant. You just have to deal with it; it is your job. I, personally would never have posted that comment for the public to see. But from what I understand it wasn't the actual server who posted it. What I think is that Applebees had to fire her to prevent a lawsuit. I think if they didn't fire her, this pastor WOULD have filed a lawsuit. For all we know they hired her back already. I hope so!

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Frances Spinelli

2:14 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

i'm glad that you're happy with your management but the minute you do something that shouldn't be done, they won't have your back trust me. I speak from experience and yes it is the servers job to make the guest feel comfortable but sometimes there is only so much one person can take. The customers now a day complain more then they don't because they want their meals free or money off the check I speak of experience, I have been in the business for over 35 years and because of the way the customers are I have left the business that I once loved more then anything, I spent years working in the restaurant supporting myself and putting myself through college to get my BPS in Hospitality management which took me 10 years to get. Because of the way this country is today and how everyone believes they are entitled to "free" if they complain enough they know they will get it they hold it over your head that they won't be back unless its off the check. They do this because the economy is so bad and can go other places so you don't want to upset them. More then half the time there is nothing wrong with their meal they are just cheap. I choose not to be around that's not what the "hospitality Industry" is about. I have walked away from a life time of people yelling at me with food in their mouths, or people who lie for free food. It's sad to see what has come of this business.I have one thing to say you customers out there that do this don't think we don't know you cheap s.o.b.'s.

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Lisa Nuzzo

8:23 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

@ Frances, that is why I left my other job because the managers had no respect for me or any of the servers. I don't know about the other Applebees, but the one I'm at, we all get along well and the managers are amazing. I know it won't always be this way because managers don't always stay but for now, I am content. The "guests" that come in are a different story. Instead of working all nights, I mainly work days because we have a lot of "regulars" and the lunch crowd tends to be more appreciative then the dinner crowd. I do get some rude people, but I just bite my tongue and wait on them with a smile. Because I prefer day shifts, I have to work 6 days a week (one night), to make what I could make in probably 4 nights or less. But this is the only way I can pay my bills. I am a single mom helping my last 3 kids get thru college. One day, when I am able, I will leave the restaurant business because it is mentally and physically draining!! ....and yes, it is because of the customers. It's a shame, but people are so selfish, disrespectful, cheap and demanding these days. Good for you that you are out of this business!

David Valiante

11:33 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

Ex-columnist here, with my two cents: Whether you agree with the US practice of tipping or not, you must leave a tip when you dine out. Servers make almost nothing (what they do make is usually taken out in taxes) and often times tip up to 4% of their SALES to busboys, hostesses, bartenders, etc. When you eat out, the tip represents the cooking, cleaning, serving and atmosphere you didn't have to do.

Tip 20%. If you're feeling cheap, leave 15%. If you're vehemently against tipping, order take out and eat at home. Kudos to the waitress for posting the ignorant customer's receipt. The publicity will only help her. Applebees is a mess anyway, getting fired from there was more a service than disservice to her.

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Karlie Baker

3:07 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

The Applebee's that posted a customer's receipt to their Facebook page is located in Mehlville, MO. We've had a lot of St. Louis residents who thought they occurred at the same restaurant, so here's our report on the incidents: http://patch.com/A-17Gx

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Zorayda

3:48 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

Shame on that Pastor! I am a devout Christian and no way is this Pastor following the ways her real Boss would have!

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concerned citizen

7:39 am on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

This paster needs to be excuminicatex from church! What was the matter you didnt get enough money on your collection plate and took it out on the waitress! You are such a cheap fake christian! You make me not want to go to chuch anymore. Next timei do go to chuch im writing a letter why i shouldnt be for ed to pay your sallary and place that on the plate! How do you like those applebees? And applebees- why dont you pay your workers real money instead of low wages and hard labor? I hope you all close down and then we have one less mediocre ace to eat! New name should be crapplebees! This waitress should be commended and given a real job! At least she doesnt have to deal with that job no more! Shes better off!

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Mark Sanford

3:11 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

"This statement comes after a similarly widespread brouhaha online after Chik Fil A founder S. Truett Cathy made some unsavory comments about gay marriage. You see, sometimes the internet is a democracy, and as a democrary, the people vote with their voices and their wallets."

Yeah, they did vote with their wallets, didn't they? Which is why there were hours-long lines at Chick-Fil-A's across the country. But hey, nice try at trying to use that as an example of a business suffering because it opposed a particular political orthodoxy.

Your commentary that restaurant patrons enter into some sort of implied contractual obligation with waitresses is beyond silly and stupid. The only contract I enter into is the one dictating that I pay for my meal after I order it and eat it. The waitress isn't owed anything. And if those individuals are going to whine about what they are paid, I will state that perhaps they should have thought of that before they applied for the job. Maybe you should look up the definition of the word gratuity before you start making asinine claims about how tips are some sort of quasi-legal obligation.

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Porterincollingswood

4:14 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

If this was posted by anyone over the age of 11, that's sad. A sad statement on the parenting and upbringing of Mark.

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Lisa Nuzzo

8:31 am on Friday, February 8, 2013

If restaurants had to pay their servers regular wages then your cost of eating out would increase to include the service you receive...

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Porterincollingswood

8:42 am on Friday, February 8, 2013

And if US agriculture didn't employ illegal immigrants your side salad would cost $12.

But no one seems to have an issue with wanting to "fix" that "problem". But we all know that's about getting votes and branding, not actual policy.

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edufan

8:32 am on Sunday, February 10, 2013

Mark, perhaps you need to spend time waiting on people in a restaurant! How dare you be so arrogant! I have never worked in a restaurant myself, but I can assure you that I truly appreciate someone asking me for my choice of meal, bringing to me, and cleaning up after me!!! I always leave a generous tip because I APPRECIATE the hard work by the waitstaff.

Shame on you, Mark.

Rebecca Savastio

3:29 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Mark, the customers at Chik Fil A did vote with their wallets. Chik Fil lost revenue and it no longer supports "traditional marriage" groups according to many news sources. Servers are paid well under minimum wage because of our accepted cultural custom of tipping. Otherwise, restaurants would be in violation of federal law. Finally, perhaps YOU should "look up" how to state your opinion without name calling and personal attacks.

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Mike Shortall

9:10 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

"Chik Fil lost revenue and it no longer supports "traditional marriage" groups according to many news sources."

Quite the contrary, Rebecca, on the revenue issue:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/08/02/chick-fil-a-touts-record-profits.html
http://www.abpnews.com/culture/social-issues/item/8182-chick-fil-a-flap-didn%E2%80%99t-hurt-profits

We go to Chik-FIl-A occasionally because the food is good, even if a bit pricey, and the service - for a fast food operation - is excellent. Whenever I have been to their Warrington location the business - both inside and out - is brisk. And I would add, that Chick-Fil-A ALWAYS seems to have a community fund-raiser of some sorts going on there on weekday nights.

Ike

3:30 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Was the pastor the only one? Or was there 20?If the sevice was very bad for only one ,than the pastor shouldnt had tipped, but if it was ok she should had , even though she doent have to. If there were 20 , well give the girl a breck , thats alot of work .sHE SHOULD HAD GOTTEN A BIG TIP. Why is it that the ones who work and are hardly mmaking endmeats, give the most , and the ones who can afford it are cheap,,WHY ILL TELL CAUSE WE KNOW HW IT IS TO WORK FOR NOTHING. Applebees should get tis girl a rasie after they hire her back.
AND HE PASTOR , CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING , ARE YOU A PASTOR FOR THE LORD?J.C.......... THE DEVIL?? OR THE ALL MIGHTLY DOLLAR???? IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED TO LEAN A FEW THINGS FROM THE LORD.. AND STOP BEING SO CHEAP! ........ AND PLEASE SOMEONE LET US KNOW IF APPLEBBEEES HIRES THE GIRL BACK.

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Ripped off

3:34 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

really people have you eaten at an applebees. its not that good. how much do you recommend we tip if we have a burger for 8 bucks and 6 beers for 22 bucks? I say 4 bucks

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Ike

3:51 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Never had,, yes $4 or 5 is ok.

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Ripped off

4:16 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

but that's not 18 or 20% how much do you tip on soda or coffee then?

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David Valiante

7:34 am on Friday, February 8, 2013

The ignorance of people on here astounds me. "I'm not obligated to tip", "a tip is VOLUNTARY". Tipping IS voluntary. So is holding doors for people, saying please and thank you, not answering your cellphone during a movie, cleaning up after your dog in a public park when no one is looking. But when you ignore these common acts of courtesy, you're a jack ass. So next time you get on your high horse of ignorance about not tipping your server who is busting their ass for you and who you essentially have working for free, make a mental note to never return to that restaurant. Your food WILL be tampered with. Servers make the VOLUNTARY decision not to spit in it because of the tip they're expecting at the end of your meal. If you choose to tip the scales, there will be consequences.

Like i wrote earlier: if you are so adamant about not tipping, order it to take home. if your service sucked, tip the server and speak to a manager later. You're messing with a persons livelihood when you don't tip. This is America, this is how the system works. If you disagree, don't eat out, you cheap bastards.

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Porterincollingswood

7:44 am on Friday, February 8, 2013

Don't get so worked up, they're just people who never advanced past the age of 12 in terms of mentality and worldview. You'll never change them, so do what everyone else in their lives does - ignore them.

But I do want to ask - what's the protocol on tipping on takeout? I don't always do so, may add a few dollars if I see great care has been taken to make sure everything was kept hot. I also tip on sushi (10%?) takeout as I understand that's something you are supposed to do. But opinions vary.

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Paul J. DiBartolo

8:30 am on Friday, February 8, 2013

Ignoring the audacity of your first statement (remember, you could have remained silent and thought the fool rather than opening your mouth and removing all doubt), allow me to point out that, in essence, the government has made tipping mandatory. Okay, it's rhetoric but the point is actually valid. Just like the government has now made health care insurance mandatory via a tax if you refuse to obtain such insurance, so the sever who delivers your food is paid some substandard wage by his or her employer, a wage that the government has sanctioned, but our government, in its infinite wisdom, has determined that that server will pay taxes on some higher rate of pay that is based upon your tip. Essentially, our government has made tipping an obligation rather than leaving it in the realm of the voluntary. The difference between mandatory health insurance and mandatory tipping is only in who pays the penalty or tax. In the case of health insurance, the consumer who refuses to buy health insurance pays the penalty in the form of a tax. In the case of the consumer who refuses to pay the "mandatory" tip, the server gets double dinged and pays the penalty in the form of a tax on wages that he or she never received.
I actually agree with your point but felt obligated to respond based on your tone.

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James DeLizzio

8:31 am on Friday, February 8, 2013

Sorry David,

If I get bad service from a server they do not get tipped and I advise their boss. I am not talking about poorly cooked food, I mean genuinely rude behavior from the server themselves. I am happy to say that in 43 years it's only happened a couple times. but I feel no remorse in not rewarding bad behavior.

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Porterincollingswood

8:44 am on Friday, February 8, 2013

Paul, that's great point. Does that suggest we should be upping the standard tip%? I think it might.

David Valiante

7:52 am on Friday, February 8, 2013

It depends, you're right. Mostly, hostesses make a percentage of the severs sales, so they aren't relying in tips. Sometimes the bartender takes the order, and they obviously don't rely on take out tips for income. I typically tip a few bucks when i order takeout, but that's mostly due to having spent so long in the industry and having a soft spot for tipping. Unlike stiffing a waiter, it's not usually frowned upon if you don't tip on take out. Anything you leave is considered a bonus by the person taking the order.

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David Valiante

9:05 am on Friday, February 8, 2013

If you've got a problem with government mandated serving wages, take it up with someone who won't be affected by your problem. I agree in principle that the government, and by extension the restaurants who pay their employees $2/hr, created a problematic system that mandates tipping. Taking a stand and not tipping doesn't do a damn thing to the government or restaurant, only to the server who you're forcing to work for free. I take a tone because i worked in the service industry for four years and have been affected by customers on a pedestal who impact my livelihood.

And to James, if a server is downright rude to you, you're certainly in the right to withhold a tip. I should have clarified. Oftentimes, a situation arises that affects service but is out of the servers hands. A kitchen mistake, or some other confusion. I've seen customers withhold a tip for those reasons, and i think that is wrong.

One time, my girlfriend and i went out to eat at a nice restaurant on a whim. We were young and dressed down; our server virtually ignored us all night, while fawning over surrounding tables. A mistake, as we both worked in the industry and tip 20-25%. The bus boy paid more attention to us than our server. In that situation, we left our server the tip he was apparently expecting (5%) and gave the rest of the tip to the bus boy. Situations like that, in my experience, are an rare. Typically, servers do a fine job and should be rewarded thusly.

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Paul J. DiBartolo

11:05 am on Friday, February 8, 2013

Restaurants, at times, will make an 18% tip mandatory if a dining party is larger than a given amount of people. It's not really mandatory because in this case the customer crossed out the mandatory tip.BTW, the server did not impose this tip, the restaurant did it. Moving on...
Somebody, who thought she was speaking for God, made a ridiculous statement and chose not to pay that portion of her bill. There were two things wrong with what she did. The customer's first mistake was that she acted as if the server had made the 18% tip demand. The customer did not appreciate the mandatory 18% charge and so elected to penalize the server and get mean about it, as well. Again, there is no mention that the service was deficient in any way, rather it seemed to come down to the customer not wanting to pay an 18% tip.
The second mistake the customer made was to conflate the 10% tithe on one's income as seen in the Bible with a server's tip on a meal that the customer had purchased which is actually a business or service charge not a tithe on income.
Using her logic she should refuse to pay for anything that is more costly than 10% of her income. If she earns $100,000/yr she should refuse to pay $30,000 for a new Honda because she only gives God 10% ($10,000) so why should she give the Honda dealer 30%. Given this woman's lack of ability to reason correctly I can only imagine the mess she makes when delivering a sermon.
My advice to her, "Give it a rest, lady."

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Richard Weisgrau

12:04 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013

I can understand the employee's outrage. It was not just over the amount of the tip, it was about the message. A smaller than normal tip hurts the wait person. A message that amounts to saying 'your not god' is really insulting. The tithe of 10% is meant to direct people to contribute 10% of their incomes. A tip on the other hand is a reward for services performed. Tithes and tips are just not equatable.

I employed people during my career. I can understand that no employer will tolerate an employee doing something that embarrasses even a bad customer. However, Applebees employed a double standard. It published customer information when it was good PR. It fired someone when it was bad PR. Its rules prohibit the practice altogether. It breaks its own rules – it's OK. An employee breaks its rules – it is not OK. Business owners have to set an example. Applebees did when it broke its own rules. Good for the goose is god for the gander. Applebees was wrong to fire the person.

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kevin burke

4:10 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013

I am so sick of idiots. These servers are taxed on their sales and they have to tip out the bus boys, bartenders, and hosts @ 5.5 percent plus pay taxes on the total of the check. So on a 100 dollar check they are already paying 8 dollars. If you do not tip them that's 8 dollars they have to pay out of their own pockets!

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LORA FANTER

1:01 am on Sunday, February 10, 2013

Walt...just to clarify the waitress who was fired for posting the receipt was not the waitress who waited on the pastor.

Joe

5:05 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013

The "Pastor" was taking advantage of the situation and probably does everywhere she goes. Well guess what why not "do unto others". Lets stop beating around the bush, Applebee's would rather fire the girl that to have Al Sharpton protesting out front.
Nuff said.

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John Q. Public

7:26 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013

Some Denny's restaurants tried to moderate their customer's behavior, and the NAACP got involved. Applebees had not choice but to fire the waitress. This is a very sensitive subject, but certain groups do often stiff the wait staff, and manufacture reasons not to pay their food bill. As the waitress learned, there's nothing you can do about it, without losing your job. Next time, she will be more careful.

Ike

7:38 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013

What the heck did the NAACP DO? And if f rev al the racist came in to one of my places i would kick his fat ass out .HO AINT NOTHING BUT A TROULBLE MAKER WHO ONLY WAY HE WORKS IS TO WHITES RACISTS ,WHEN HE THE B IGGEST ONE OUT THERE. DID APPLEBEES HIRE THIS GIRL BACK YET?

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John S

9:26 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013

Both my teenage kids work at a local chain restaurant, go to diverse schools with all races, have friends from all races, work with people from many races, and the one common comment I hear them make is black people don't tip well. Obviously not all, but enough to make them stand out. They also state that they are rude, demanding. and will try to swap food items on the menu that the server is not allowed to do. Again, not all, but enough to stand out.. This so-called pastor is a small example of a bigger picture. For those folks that don't understand, here's what's expected when dining out: This is the menu, these are the prices, if you recieve good food and service you tip a minimum 15%. If Bad food or service was the result, request a managers assistance and work it out. If you can't afford that, then stay home and cook a meal. Rudeness or demeaning comments should never have to be tolerated, and no this isn't a racially biased comment, it's FACTS related from my kids. Blacks represent the largest race group in most US jails, another FACT. Political correctness needs to take a back seat to common sense. If any group is offended by facts , they need to consider changing there habits, even rude cheapskates.

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Joe

8:08 am on Monday, February 11, 2013

My kids say the same thing.
We must be sharing a brain.

michael mirra

10:28 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013

I already boycott Chick-fil-A, Papa Johns, Red Lobster, &The Olive Garden. I just added AppleBees to the Dung list.

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michael mirra

10:31 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013

Also boycott whatever church the Cheap Preachor is at. If you go to that church, don't give them any money.

Lisa Nuzzo

8:55 am on Monday, February 11, 2013

On a positive note....Yesterday, I was "cut" at 2:30 after the lunch rush and I wanted to stay on longer, but everyone was a "double" so I couldn't. Anyway, my table heard one of the servers telling me I was "cut" and handed me a $20 bill and said "Here, put this in your pocket, I've been in the restaurant business for years and I know what it's like when you want to stay and you're cut"...

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