Sign-Blowing Scofflaws to Pay the Price in Collingswood
'Stop at the sign or pay a fine' is coming for you, drivers who ignore pedestrian safety laws.
The Borough of Collingswood released the following announcement:
In an effort to increase safety for pedestrians in Collingswood, well known as a walkable community, officials are kicking off a Pedestrian Safety Initiative in spring 2013.
The program, titled “Stop at the sign or pay the fine,” aims to remind drivers that it is imperative to follow pedestrian safety regulations and will crack down on those that put pedestrians and other drivers at risk.
The program will focus on stricter enforcement of traffic laws including curbing speeding and illegal U-turns, enforcing full stops at signs and enforcing crosswalk laws and other increased ticketing of violations that put pedestrians in danger. The borough will also improve signage and hire part time help this summer to repaint crosswalks throughout town.
“The idea is to really stress that driving that puts pedestrians at risk will be ticketed,” Mayor Jim Maley said. “We’re known as a walkable town and a destination, so we want to keep residents and visitors as safe as possible. We get a lot of feedback on this issue. It’s a major concern for us especially in the spring when people flock to town for warm weather events, shopping and dining.”
The borough already staffs crossing guards and has bump outs and other traffic calming devices in the downtown along Haddon Avenue in an effort to maintain a safe walking atmosphere. The “Stop at the sign or pay the fine” program will increase the current budget for traffic calming measures.
“This initiative keeps people safer and will give Collingswood a reputation as a place where careless driving isn’t tolerated,” said police Chief Richard Sarlo. “It’s remarkable how many people ignore traffic laws that protect pedestrians.”
luis cabrera
4:05 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
What about the pedestrians ? are they going to be ticketed for jay walking or crossing in the middle of the streets ?
The Fox
11:57 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Of course not!
bsdtktr
5:24 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
People not stopping at stop signs has been a pet peeve of mine. Not just on Haddon Ave, but anywhere in town, esp. people tearing through at rush hours barely tapping their brakes, and sometimes not at all. But, what's taken so long? But luis is right, too. all the lazy people who can't walk another 10 or 20 feet to a crosswalk are an issue, too. And the sight lines to some of the crosswalks are terrible, there are parked cars right up against the crosswalks at spots on Haddon Ave, making it hard/impossible to see a pedestrian attempting to cross (sometimes I am the driver frantically scanning, sometimes I am that pedestrian). How about backing parking spaces at least a half-car length from the crosswalks?
Kevin
8:32 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
This is a great initiative but I really hope it makes it way into the neighborhoods versus just Haddon Ave. That is where the real problem is. I completely agree with bsdtktr. On a daily basis I see about 3-5 cars blow through the intersection of Maple and Garfield (right down the street from the school) with no intention of stopping or even a courtesy slow down.
There are streets in surrounding towns (Greentree Road in Marlton, Chester Ave in Delran) where people actually drive the posted 25mph speed limit, because there was enough of a police presence at times where people were ticketed and took notice. The same needs to happen in Collingswood, enough of a presence and tickets written where stopping becomes ingrained in to the driving habits of our community.
Future Old Angry Italian Guy
8:53 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Maple Ave is the all time worst in the entire town. I actually follow stop sign runners and tear them a new one when I catch them. There would never be a $$$ problem if the CPD sat at Maple Ave and East Palmer and other intersections before Woodlawn Ave. Dangerous dangerous road that doesn't need to be.
Porterincollingswood
10:18 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Does that include the one guy in the silver sports car who doesn't ever stop for stop signs because he bought a mass-produced vehicle that he thinks makes him Brando in "The Wild One"?
He almost hit us every day when my kid went to school down that way.
He does it around 8:55 every morning.
Porterincollingswood
10:23 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
It's actually a tacky Mustang, for those of you scoring at home. Can't miss it.
The Fox
11:55 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
your an idiot
Cwood grad
12:21 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
to the fox:
You're*
Cara Boiler
9:35 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Yes, maple ave is a big issue. Just yesterday nearing the end of school I saw two people blow through the stop sign at Palmer. Thank goodness it was a 4 way stop or they would have been plowing right into my car instead.
I also agree that there needs to be a buffer surrounding crosswalks. The parking spaces through Haddon Ave are entirely to close and it is impossible to see pedestrians waiting to cross until it is too late to stop or risk being rear ended (yes, even at 25 mph).
Greg
10:21 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Maple is a SERIOUS problem, and I'm afraid to say that the main offenders are probably residents that know that they can bypass the Haddon Ave traffic by driving on Maple. The stretch between Penn and Stiles invites drivers to go WAY too fast. We live on Homestead and regularly see cars flying by at 35-40 mph. There aren't 4-way stop signs at either the Linden or Homestead intersections with Maple, so cars really get going on those three blocks.
mara jefferson
10:50 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
FINALLY cracking down on rolling stops could generate enough revenue to lower our taxes! It's about time!
Lauren Burgoon
11:04 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Just a reminder that Mayor Maley mentioned when people take their complaints and concerns from Patch to him, things can sometimes can get changed or addressed. He talked about it in the light pollution part 2 story from the other day. Contact info for all of the commissioners is here: http://collingswood.com/government/mayor-and-commissioners
Kevin
4:19 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
I have called the PD many times over our years living in town about non-stoppers at certain intersections. One of the officers that I spoke with said that when he does stop someone for not stopping, he does not ticket them if they live in town. That is who should be ticketed since they drive in Collingswood daily.
Of my phone calls regarding a certain intersection only 1x had I ever seen a presence after my call.
Robb C. Sewell
11:42 am on Saturday, March 2, 2013
This is great news and well needed. I've been pushing for this since we moved here in December 2010. We're near the intersection of Highland and Browning and we see cars plow through the stop sign there all the time. A few months ago, I was working at home. I kid you not, but over the course of one hour, I saw upwards of 100 cars speed through that intersection without stopping at all. As I raised with the Borough at that time, it's a tragedy waiting to happen what with some many people in that vicinity (kids on their way to school, joggers, runners, bicyclists, adults walking dogs, etc.). We had a similar situation at our old house in Burlington Township. Burlington's enforcement program actually helped cut down on the speeding situation.
The Fox
12:01 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
The problem lies within the people that just strut out into the street without regard for their own safety. Don't expect me to jam my brakes on because you can't wait until its safe to cross. Remember 'Look both ways before crossing'?
Peeches
2:27 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
For years, I have said Collingswood Schools must teach a course on how to cross streets. That is cross the street where ever you please, pay no attention to the cars or the traffic and walk as slowly as you can. Mr. Mayor, look at your schools, not at the drivers. Yes, the driver should obey laws, but the pedestrians are worse than any other town I have been. And you should do something about the school crossing guards. The nasty one at the High School needs to be brought down a peg. I have never been spoken to by a police office the way she does. I dropped a child off there for the first time and apparently can't read.
Sean Andrew
10:09 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
LMAO - I am sorry you cannot read. Maybe if the schools spend more time on reading and less on crossing streets, we can hope future generations do not share your reading problem.
Peeches
2:31 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Lauren,
I am still waiting for my concern to be resolved. Waiting and waiting and waiting. Wait, I think I am growing old waiting.
Peeches
2:37 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Sorry folks, I am on a roll. What about the people who drive up a one way street. This street leads right into Zane North.School. The neighbors and I have called numerous times. Do we get appropriate signage, NO. Maybe even a slow down sign for the speeders who are cutting through. The town, Mr Maley and his crew are as much at fault for whats going on. Trying to make too many rules and can't take care of the ones already on the books.
TW
2:43 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
My pet peeve's: are the people that don't look both ways before they cross the street and assume that you see them... didn't your mother teach you this!!!
Plus the "Pedestrains crossing the street and texting or talking on their cell phones and not even looking up at the cars" and we can get fined for their stupidity.
Porterincollingswood
4:08 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Good point, many times it is hard to tell if people are actually waiting to cross.
If the pedestrian did not make the equivalent of a "football move" to let the driver know they intended to cross, then I agree - no fine.
Collingswoodnative
3:22 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
No one has mentioned the stop sign on Atlantic Ave at Dayton within 100 feet of the PD Hq that many people blow through.
Lets ticket our police officers and family that blow through stop signs also. At times it's hard to differentiate between the scofflaws and the police.
Peeches is correct we have too many laws now that are not enforced.
Cwood grad
4:51 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
That stop sign should not even be there.
Collingswoodnative
5:10 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Many of the stop signs I believe in town are illegal since it's my understanding that the state must approve a stop sign before it can be installed. About ten years ago Collingswood went crazy and installed four way stop signs at most intersections. I do think this is one reason tickets are not handed out since if someone wishes to make a case out of it all convictions could be reversed.
As for the the sign at Dayton, no it shouldn't be there but as a person that turns off Dayton frequently and crosses the street on foot at night there shouldn't be cars and trucks parked right up the the intersection making it hard to see or make a turn.
Shirley
4:38 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Full disclosure: I stop at all stop signs. I used to drive down Maple Av, "stop sign center of Colls." to get to PATCO. On several occasions, the police car behind me couldn't wait and turned up the block to go down Highland Av. I was waiting for him at the next intersection and made him come to a stop at the stop sign. Ditto for the fireman going to Wawa for coffee. I think our enforcement staff should set a good example.
Cwood grad
4:52 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Collingswood is way too stop sign happy.
charles burnham
4:57 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
I totally agree with the "stop at the sign or get a fine"move. I drive around all day in the 5 towns locally and notice people don't understand how to cross the street even at the traffic lights. I get yelled at daily from people who are in a hurry because I try to be courteous to other drivers as well as pedestrians,bikers,joggers and so on. Driving a taxi is very tiring due to always having to watch for everything that moves in your direction. I would just like people to realize that just because they're in a cross walk or intersection, that to stop in a split second for their safety means I may get rear ended by the person that's in a hurry to get where they are going. My customers are also my responsibility. Please just don't walk out into traffic or the street thinking people are 100% attentive.
Shirley
8:56 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Collingswoodnative and everyone else, you may be interested to know that it is illegal to park a) within 25 feet of a crosswalk at an intersection or side line of a street or intersection highway, except at alleys; b) within 50 feet of a stop sign; and c) 20 feet from the end of a safety zone (pedestrian crosswalk). How often do you think those laws are adhered to or enforced?
Peeches
10:55 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Sean, you seem to think reading is more important than watching the traffic, and the kids crossing the street. Are you one of these drivers that read while you drive? The real issue is the Crossing Guard leaving the middle of the crosswalk to take a picture of my car touching the end of the yellow painted line, giving me a ration and leaving the center of the actual crosswalk, holding up traffic. And no I didn't see the sign my eyes were on the road for safety sake.
C.V.
12:44 am on Sunday, March 3, 2013
ha ha drunk with crossing guard power
Kevin
7:59 am on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Peeches, keeping your eyes on the road also includes being able to read the signs that relate to the road.
Sean Andrew
12:59 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Kudos Kevin. Amazingly, 99% of drivers seem to be able to both watch traffic and read signs. They go in hand in hand for most. In fact, it's part of the motor vehicle test.
If you have a problem with the crossing guard, why not speak with someone at the Borough? Or, you can complain on patch because that's effective.
Paul
2:03 am on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Speeding on residential roads (25 mph limit) is definitely a problem along Park Blvd/Ave by those utilizing it as an arterial/alternative route. Collings Ave also has a speeding issue, although I did see an officer with a radar and sign just recently. There was a journalist that was nearly killed years ago by someone who blew a stop sign, hit him and ran off here in Colls. They never found the perp, er, coward, and now his life is one embedded in Traumatic Brain Injury because of an issue that is finally being addressed in this town. http://www.phillymag.com/articles/comebacks-dead-man-talking/
Joey
12:59 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
This has been my biggest gripe about our great town. I walk about often and can write a book on all the close calls. Especially on Atlantic Ave along PATCO. Cars whip around the Collins Ave intersection which has no stops..THIS IS A DANGEROUS SPOT as nobody know the right of way. Plus Atlantic Ave has become the hot spot for free parking and this adds to the congestion. Haddon Ave is our business zone so I am happy this is being investigated. Time will tell. Fingers and toes crossed.....
Lauren Burgoon
2:37 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
I agree with you on that spot. I cross that area to get from my place to Haddon Ave. and it's a crapshoot half the time whether Patch is going to have to write about one of their editors getting mowed down in a crosswalk.
Collingswoodnative
7:37 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
I agree, I cross that intersection at night. I walk fast but a car can turn off Park Ave and be at the intersection before I can cross walking toward Park.
Peeches
2:42 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Kevin I turned onto Collings at the corner of the school. I will have to ride by that site again and see exactly where the sign is posted in relationship to the turn.
c.v. Absolutely love your humor: ha ha drunk with crossing guard power
John doe
1:24 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
Will this be effective in Collingswood only? It may also be smart to add Westmont where there bars and people more likely to get in an accident. Although, does it matter without police monitoring the streets this idea will never work and traffic violations will continue to put those trying to walk and reduce their carbon footprint at risk! A walkable town..what a joke